Well, crap.
I thought about posting this to Rant, but I'm not really ranty about it. Maybe I'm feeling moderately worried, so I'll post my worried in the moderate zone:
There was a tribe called "Show and Tell" -- I don't know that I read the description. It was a basic meme-distribution-with-commentary place for discussion, with no discernable central theme. There were about 400 members, many of whom posted with zeal, and near oral-compulsive enthusiasm. I was a member for about three or four weeks, during which time I almost left the tribe several times, just because I was frustrated trying to keep up with the volume of posts.
But I didn't. There were a lot of really funny threads, and sasstasstic comments that made me giggle or snicker, respectively. So I stayed there, and dealt with the glaring "Show and Tell: 1400 new posts" notifier on my homepage with mild chagrin.
Now it's gone; the Moderator made some comment in the middle of a thread that contained some racial epithets (I should say "apparently contained," as I was not keeping up). Someone got offended, and as part of the offended-person's defense, he went and found the Moderator's personal information, and posted it to the tribe with some kind of threat attached to it. Place of residence, employment, middle name, etc. The Moderator freaked out, and closed the tribe.
So. What's the deal with that? The invasive part is disturbing. Well, very disturbing. And now the both of them are going round-and-round in Tribe Moderators.
I feel like my little happy corner of Tribe.net is going just happy and nice, and then notice crap like this going on. Here I was hoping this was better than usenet...
Bleh.
I thought about posting this to Rant, but I'm not really ranty about it. Maybe I'm feeling moderately worried, so I'll post my worried in the moderate zone:
There was a tribe called "Show and Tell" -- I don't know that I read the description. It was a basic meme-distribution-with-commentary place for discussion, with no discernable central theme. There were about 400 members, many of whom posted with zeal, and near oral-compulsive enthusiasm. I was a member for about three or four weeks, during which time I almost left the tribe several times, just because I was frustrated trying to keep up with the volume of posts.
But I didn't. There were a lot of really funny threads, and sasstasstic comments that made me giggle or snicker, respectively. So I stayed there, and dealt with the glaring "Show and Tell: 1400 new posts" notifier on my homepage with mild chagrin.
Now it's gone; the Moderator made some comment in the middle of a thread that contained some racial epithets (I should say "apparently contained," as I was not keeping up). Someone got offended, and as part of the offended-person's defense, he went and found the Moderator's personal information, and posted it to the tribe with some kind of threat attached to it. Place of residence, employment, middle name, etc. The Moderator freaked out, and closed the tribe.
So. What's the deal with that? The invasive part is disturbing. Well, very disturbing. And now the both of them are going round-and-round in Tribe Moderators.
I feel like my little happy corner of Tribe.net is going just happy and nice, and then notice crap like this going on. Here I was hoping this was better than usenet...
Bleh.
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Re: Immoderate and Ill-Advised
Sat, April 3, 2004 - 10:14 AMLittle glimpses of that drama keep rearing their malformed heads all over this here "beta" site. It reminds me of one of our world's greatest truths: some people really need to chill out and remember that, hey, it's just a fucking online discussion forum, for Ah Pook's sweet sake! So, while it's annoying to see the first major instance of this on tribe, I don't really think it's the clarion call of the 32 horsemen of Usenet style uselessness.
With that said, I do think this site has been slowly going downhill over the past few months. Oh well.
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Re: Immoderate and Ill-Advised
Sat, April 3, 2004 - 10:35 AMAt least we have this moderated safe place, where we can use the monitor doll to show the nice policeman where the bad man touched us.
People who escalate online hostilities to real-world hostilities should be kicked, banned, ridiculed, shunned, shot, and then moderated. -
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Re: People who escalate online hostilities to real-world hostilities should be kicked, banned, ridiculed, shunned, shot, and then moderated.
Sat, April 3, 2004 - 11:40 PMIn moderation, of course.
And in response to the McStarchster, I agree that Usenet became a lot less useful than this site is currently.
I've noticed a decrease of traffic, and a local-to-me increase in ennui about Tribe, but I'd not thought of it as anything more than a natural artifact in the growth curve.
Same with the Trolls.
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Re: People who escalate online hostilities to real-world hostilities should be kicked, banned, ridiculed, shunned, shot, and then moderated.
Sun, April 4, 2004 - 12:54 AMNo, I think it's mostly the growth curve. And that we ("we" being tribe users) were extremely lucky about how low our schmuck content was in the early going. -
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Just weird.
Mon, April 5, 2004 - 7:22 PMWell, the guy who posted the address is now Unsubscribed. Exiled or in self-imposed retreat, is unclear. I kinda hope it's exiled, because in the TOS it states clearly, "Contains personally identifiable information about another individual that was published without their express consent" which appears to cover "posting someone else's address" pretty well.
So is Thaddeus, reputedly, though his gallery is free of pix, it displays the broken icon for not found, as opposed to the default grey-with-question-mark icon. I suspect he's laying low, rather than actually unsubbed.
Meanwhile a mess of people are doing a kind of "I AM SPARTACUS" routine.
Meanwhile, Boingboing is soliciting ideas about how to pay for their crazy big provider bills. So far the comments thread is behaving itself, and appears constructive. -
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Re: Just weird.
Mon, April 5, 2004 - 7:51 PMJesus Fucktart McGillicutty, are those clones ever annoying...
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Re: People who escalate online hostilities to real-world hostilities should be kicked, banned, ridiculed, shunned, shot, and then moderated.
Sat, April 17, 2004 - 11:29 AM"I've noticed a decrease of traffic, and a local-to-me increase in ennui about Tribe..."
I, too, have felt such ennui. I'm sure nobody really noticed, but I've been increasingly absent over the past several months, to the point that now I'm really only on here once a week at most, and sometimes a few weeks pass between visits. Growth curve, perhaps. I used to log in several times a day, and sometimes be on for a few hours at a stretch. In part, I've spent more time in meatspace, doing real life things (remember those?), and in part I just don't have much zeal left for it. It is interesting talking to people (potentially) around the world, and often fun bantering with them, but I really do have more important, productive things to do with my time. And, of course, if you spend any time away (and with some tribes, even if you don't) the number of new posts in a tribe can grow dramatically. I hate that, for some reason. The numbers begin to mock my ability to dispatch them, to see all the posts. So, I gave up on many. I haven't been to most of the bigger, more active tribes in months because I don't want to have to wade through (often literally) thousands of posts just to be up-to-date on the tribe happenings, to know what the fuck they're talking about.
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Re: People who escalate online hostilities to real-world hostilities should be kicked, banned, ridiculed, shunned, shot, and then moderated.
Mon, April 19, 2004 - 11:08 AMit's the "oooh, shiny!" appeal wearing off. -
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Re: it's the "oooh, shiny!" appeal wearing off.
Mon, April 19, 2004 - 6:17 PMI've noticed a lot of "Unsubscribed" users as well. It's not just the "ooh, shiny" factor, but I think a lot of people realized they were spending entirely too much time here, and not in the Big Room. Or work.
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